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I got an e-mail the other day, followup on a survey I'd taken part in, that has apparently led to this scientific paper and this writeup for us non-experts

I barely remember doing it; I'm most likely to have participated because they were interested in how/if hyperphantasia or aphantasia are affected by visual impairments. I don't feel like I have a strong visual imagination and imagine that must be related to me not having strong visual signals at all. But I am far from aphantasic either -- or so I feel confident in saying because Andrew had it and how he described it seemed very different from my experience. But then I find it hard to distinguish this from my spatial reasoning (abnormally good for "my gender" when it was tested in school), sense of direction, and memory. I was better than my parents at those "Concentration" type games where you turn over two cards and see if they match, when I was like three or four. They were impressed but I think it's just how my brain deals with not being able to see very well: after I've been someplace once, I'm likely to have a pretty good idea of the path I took to and from so I am so much more relaxed any subsequent times.

This kind of spatial acuity does seem to be the other kind of hyperphantasia talked about here: "an enhanced ability to picture the orientation of different items relative to one another and perform mental rotations" and it also mentions a good sense of direction. I don't know if I have that to a "hyper-" worthy degree, and if I did I'm sure it'd be because of other parts of my brain chipping in to make up for the shitty signal my visual cortex gets -- the one MRI I had wasn't related to my sight but since if its about anything below your head, your head is also in the tube, and that meant the first thing the consultant said about it was that my visual cortex is both bigger and fuzzier than usual, which I presume is what this "let's all pitch in and help out" coping mechanism has led to. Having been born with my visual impairment, my brain developed with it as a constant factor. I do wonder what that does to the aphantasia/hyperphantasia spectrum.

Anyway all that is incidental. It's always cool to get to help with a science!

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Date: 2024-05-03 07:47 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Baby wearing black glasses bigger than head (eyeglasses baby)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k

Wow that's cool.

I'm mightily puzzled, though, by the 5-point questions as shown in the Guardian. How would I know whether my recollection is "vague and dim" or "clear and reasonably vivid"--doesn’t that require me to know what "vivid" looks like?

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Date: 2024-05-04 12:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] barakta
I can imagine blind people are really interesting for phantasia studies whether born blind or VI or became VI/blind. I know some blind people compensate after sight loss by using hyperfantasic style skills. Others lose their visualisation like Prof John Hull who several years after becoming completely blind talked about "deep blindness" which didn't rely on visuals or visual memories.

I'm aphantasic or at least I'd say nearly so, and didn't even realise people could literally visualise things like a sunset or sheep to count to sleep or whatever. They are definitely trying to determine while some aphantasics have a good sense of direction and others like me have a horrible one. A lot may come down to people's methods. Some people rely on landmarks, other people are using purer spatial reasoning.

I know some VI folk who have a very good sense of direction, and others who don't, the latter struggle a lot more cos they don't benefit as much from mobility training and can get given a lot of "you're not as good other blindies" type shit. One of my students once had dyspraxia and was losing sight, I had to explain to him he may struggle more (which was the reports we were getting from those around stude), so needs to insist on more training and support.

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Date: 2024-05-04 11:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meepettemu
I had that email too! :)

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